fuck tioga they are fucking pieces of shit that dont give credit where it is due, they spend all there money on marketing fancy names, the guy that designed there new treads concepts and the new pedal is gone, next year for tioga will just probably be some fancy colors of the same shit , this 2nd tires original design was made in less that 10km of riding off road, in the frozen north, fact!!!!!! dont believe the hype!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!